How much caffeine is in decaf coffee beans?

In the United States federal regulations require that in order to label coffee beans as “decaffeinated” that coffee must have had its caffeine level reduced by no less than 97.5 percent. So how much caffeine is in decaf coffee? Anywhere from 0.1% to 2.5% depending on the decaffeinating method

Example: Panamanian coffee beans are about 1.36% caffeine by weight normally. This and many other Arabica coffees are about 98.64% caffeine free even before anything is done to lower the caffeine content. This is because the other components that make up the coffee bean (cellulose, sugars, moisture, chlorogenic acids) are primarily what give coffee its flavor.

When 97% of the caffeine has been removed only (1.36% / 97% =) 0.0408% of the coffee caffeine by weight. About 4/100ths of 1%. At this level it is labeled “decaffeinated”. How roasters label their products is another matter. Suppose two roasters roast Panama coffee that originally came from the same lot, and were decaffeinated together in the same vat. One roaster labels his decaf. “97.5% Caffeine Removed.” The other says his is “99+% Caffeine Free.” Which roaster is not telling the truth?

The answer is: They are both right, depending on what measure you’re talking about. One is talking about the removal of caffeine as a percentage and the other is talking about the amount of caffeine compared to the weight of the coffee. They are both essentially saying the same thing, albeit using vague and confusing terminology.

Taking a 10 gram serving of coffee (10,000 mg) and dividing it by 0.0408% gives you just over 4 mg. Decaf should range somewhere in the 2-4 milligrams of caffeine per cup range. Note that a “cup” here is referred to 6-oz of brewed coffee, far less than what is typically consumed.

Decaffeinating Coffee Methods

Currently used solvents for decaffeinating coffee include, H2O (water), CO2 (Carbon Dioxide), Meth. Chloride, Ethyl Acetate. Note: A relatively new method called Swiss Water Decaffeinated uses “flavor-charged” water in the decaffeinating process.

Simply using water or CO2 are entirely natural processes, while the solvents (methyl chloride and ethyl acetate) sounds scary and bad for your health. Actually, all solvents are nearly gone by the end of the process, with only trace amounts being detected in tests. These solvents are then incinerated at temperatures well below roasting temperatures – roughly half the level, which means there are no traces of solvents in actual roasted coffee.

Generally, the Swiss Water Process is used for coffees that are well liked and used in a lot of blends, from countries that produce a lot of coffee. Colombian coffee is by far the most popular, with Peru and Kenya coffee beans sometimes being available depending on the crop and feedback from wholesale coffee buyers.

Note that decaffeinating coffee also affects other compounds, and generally, decaf coffees will have lower acidity than regular coffee, which may make them easier on peoples’ stomach – separately from the caffeine level.

Caffeine in Starbucks Decaf Pike Place Coffee

Starbucks lists the following caffeine levels in their Decaf Pike Place Roast:

  • Short (8 oz): 15mg
  • Tall (12 oz): 20mg
  • Grande (16 oz): 25mg
  • Venti (20 oz): 30mg

It should be noted that these are estimated values based on average readings – Starbucks coffees are blends of many different coffees and crops vary from year to year.

Comparing a 16-oz decaf Pike Place (25 mg) to a 16-oz regular Pike Place (310 mg), you get about 8% caffeine remaining, or 92% decaf. While this is a significantly decaffeinated drink, 25 mg is still a good amount of caffeine.

Note: Caffeine content taken from Starbucks website.

Caffeine vs. Roast Level

Another myth is that getting a dark roasted coffee is similar to getting a decaf coffee, because caffeine is destroyed by longer roasting times. There’s an ounce of truth to this, since caffeine levels are lower – but not to the point of being any sort of equivalent to decaf.

Caffeine did not undergo significant degradation with only 5.4% being lost under severe roasting.
Source

That means that whether you’re drinking a super light roast (aka White Coffee) or super dark roast (“Espresso” roast), you’ll have pretty much the same level of caffeine.

78 thoughts on “How much caffeine is in decaf coffee beans?”

  1. Decaffeinated Coffee

    I have been reading how caffeine is damaging to your skin, would about four 6oz cups a day of decaffinated coffee have the same effect or not enough to worry about? I am just wanting an opinion. Thank you.

    1. caffiene

      I have a heart condition and my doctor has told me to cut back all together on caffeine. For your responce, he has also asked that i not drink decaff coffee for the reason that there still is a percentage of caffeine in decaff coffee. I kinda seem to think that even at that amount and haveing 6 cups, might not be a good thing?

      C

      1. Decaf vs Real Caf

        Let’s do the math. 6 cups (8oz each) of Decaf coffee would yield about 30mg of total caffeine. The same 6 cups (8oz each) of Real Caf coffee might yield about 900mg of total caffeine. The FDA recommends less than 100mg per day for Adults and even less for children. Now, that is just regular home brewed coffee, Consumer Stores (Starbucks, Seattle, QT, etc) might have higher doses depending on the coffee beans and realistically, who drinks an 8oz cup of coffee anymore!
        Decaf Coffee and Caffeine-Free Sodas and Teas are much better if you are looking for the taste and not the jolt of alertness.

        1. Interesting comments..

          In reality, ALL Arabica contains approx. 1.2% to 1.9% caffeine, by weight… which is NOT the standard most people look at for caffeine consumption. They look at the grams per cup of caffeine intake. There are new hybrid Arabica breads, Daterra, a Brazilian Farm, has successfully bred an Arabica Hybrid that naturally contains less than 1% of caffeine. Is it caffeine free? No. To be quite honest, MOST coffee roasters – who ultimately sell to the coffeehouses, cafes, etc that we enjoy each day – blend regular beans with decaf. beans to cut costs!! I know, I am a roaster. And I think this practice is dishonest and unacceptable. As for grams per cup of caffeine.. Bottom line, true Decaf has less than 5 grams of caffeine per cup, whereas the avg. caffeinated cup has 100 to 150mg (for a 6 oz. serving) about 40 times as much..

          Here is a quote from a recent study, “University of Nebraska-Omaha chemistry professor Dana Richter-Egger tested the samples. He found that Bruegger’s decaf had the least caffeine of the five brands tested at 0.9 milligrams. Next was Crane Coffee at 2.4 milligrams per 12 ounces. Third place was Scooters at 3.8 milligrams. McDonald’s came in fourth at 4.4 milligrams. Starbucks decaf has the most caffeine of those tested at 9.5 milligrams per 12 ounces. Even with a margin of error at plus or minus two milligrams, Starbucks slightly exceeds the decaf minimum.” Obviously, we can see the green giant is cheating, and not offering ‘true’ decaf coffee! – excerpt from KETV.com

          I think another aspect to be concerned with is the method in which the coffee is decaffeinated. Using Methylene or Ethyl processes leaves undeniably leaves trace amounts of these harmful chemicals behind! I would NEVER roast, nor sell, anything other than water processed decaf beans. So, if you’re into decaf. make sure it’s ALL decaf,.. and ask how it is processed. If they don’t know, best find a knowledgeable, reputable replacement for that location… because their ignorance could effect your health.

          Bottom line. Find an honest, local coffee shop.. support those that support your community and only buy from places that KNOW their beans.. and you’ll be in good hands.

          Enjoy!

          1. Coffee

             

             I have started drinking decaff around 6 cups aday as apposed to like 10 or reg coffee i still get a slight headache if i stop, i will have to stop for 4 days soon as have a medical trial and dont want these insane pains in ma head any advice I cant take tablets to ease the pain

  2. better with or without coffee ?

    I think it’s better to just skip coffee if you are planning to live a healthy life because coffee implies cigarettes and so on so what’s there to benefit ?

    1. Cigaretts and coffee

      As a smoker of some 13 years, now free for almost 40 years, coffee has not been a factor in tempting me to go back to smoking. The smell of cigarette smoke can nearly make me sick.

      I have de-toxed caffiene from my system on 4 occasions, the most recent this past week. I am always amazed at the fact I have no problem going days without coffee. Because it is a habit, going without it certainly changes my daily routine and I find myself thinking about it.

      None the less, there is no addicitve craving that leaves me eating like crazy, the way it did when I went “cold turkey” from smoking, or trying to replace the coffee with some other substance to fill the void.

      I don’t think my experience is odd, but there is little to compare it with.

      1. Yeah, I just quit smoking.

        Yeah, I just quit smoking. It makes me eat like crazy too.

        Coffee and cigarettes may go hand in hand but not always. A lot of my smoking buddies don’t drink coffee. And the only time I had coffee with a cigarette was in the mornings.

        Now, quitting coffee…? That I will never do.

          1. Yes, congratulations indeed.

            Yes, congratulations indeed. I quit 2 years ago. I have not had good consistency with exercise and it shows. I am trying to learn to live with the fat me. I hope you have better results with your efforts.

        1. you and the rest of the

          you and the rest of the world

          testament to the ultimate addictive substance – caffeine

    2. Skipping coffee

      I think you’re absolutely right. It is healthier to skip coffee entirely.

      But I still have a cup every morning!

      I don’t know why…. I do enjoy the taste but I think its more about the kickstart to the day.

      Other than my morning coffee I do a healthy amount of exercise and eat a sensible diet so I have energy through the day.

    3. I quit smoking two yrs ago

      I quit smoking two yrs ago after smoking for 10yrs. Coffee in no way has encouraged or tempted me to smoke again. Alcohol would be the thing that could encourage smoking more.

    4. i LOVE the taste of coffee

      i LOVE the taste of coffee and have never smoked. The two don’t have to go together. I’m 5 months pregnant and stopped drinking caffeine and find decaff to be just as yummy!

    5. “coffee implies cigarettes”

      “coffee implies cigarettes” what an asanine thing to say!

      I’ve been drinking my coffee black (no cream no sugar) for over 20 years and I have never smoked in my life.

      If you think all coffee drinkers are smokers then pardon the pun but…. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

    6. coffee was a stumbling block when I gave up cigarettes

      I agree with one of your repliers who says that not all coffee drinkers are also smokers, however I also have to agree with your statement. When I was first giving up smoking, coffee was a stumbling block because I’d always associated my cup of coffee with having a smoke. Same with having a beer. The cup/glass felt uncomfortable in my hands without the smoke. Now that I’ve given up smoking for over 20 years, I don’t have the same associate with smoking, so it’s not a problem any more.

      But if you’re trying to live a healthier life (assuming you think caffeine is unhealthy), surely having decaf is better than non-decaf coffee. Just as having no caffeine at all would be better than decaf. It’s all a matter of degree. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Decaf might be a good first step for some people….so there IS a benefit to decaf.

      1. getting to the finish line

        caffeine momentarily elevates serotonin but causes the body to counteract later on, just like all substance abuse. exercise can have the same effect but don’t over do it either! good vigorous walk in the morning for about 45 min will do the trick. immediately after eat a good hearty grain hot cereal with some nuts and honey in it. basically anything that causes you to feel high comes with a consequence. coffee, sugar, and nicotine are some of the most powerful legal substances! don’t quit everything at once! start with working out but don’t push too hard or you will need these other substances to rebalance you. it takes about 2 weeks to kick the sugar habit! almost impossible to quit if you’re doing drugs or drinking. i always thought sober meant being one of those guys standing outside of their AA meetings smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. they are not sober! i’ve made a strong effort into becoming sober and it is finally paying off! you can be stronger than you ever imagined and your mental confidence and abilities will increase dramatically! you have to just be patient with the withdrawals for a while! most people never get this far because they’ve never what it’s like to be completely sober! they’ve been ingesting these things their whole life! stick it out, it’s worth it!!!

  3. Arabica Caffeine Content

    I am very interested in the comment about, “Panamanian coffee is about 1.36% caffeine by weight normally. This and many other arabica coffees are about 98.64% caffeine free ”

    Perhaps you could go into more detail about an Arabica coffee being almost caffiene free, as this would be news to me? Of all the research and study I’ve done over the last 5 years, that is the first time I have read anything like that.

    I don’t know if you are referring specifically to Arabica coffees from Panama, Central America in general, or Arabica coffees in general.

    1. Re:Arabica Caffeine Content

      1.36% caffeine by weight is not almost caffeine free. It’s 1.36% by weight. A number of compounds make up coffee. Caffeine is only one. The point tis that 97.5% caffeine removed and 99+% caffeine free are the same thing because caffeint is naturaly only about 1.4% of coffee.

      Arabica has less caffeine than robusta by about 50% but that is it. I suppose since US government regulations look at what percentage of caffeine is removed and not how much is left a coffee starting with robusta could have more caffeine left but realistically it’s all very small amounts.

      1. Is 99% caffeine free the same as 99% of caffeine removed?

        No it is not. Decaffeinated coffee must have 97% of the original caffeine removed. Since most coffee only has around 1% of mass as caffeine you might think this means a coffee that is 99%caffeine free is decaffeinated. But for coffee to be decaffeinated it must have 97% of the original caffeine removed (ie 97% of the 1% originally in the coffee).

    1. Caffeine and Sleep

      I understand that the half life of caffeine in the body is 5 hours, therefore whatever caffeine amount one consumes half of that is in the body five hours later. If the original amount was, say 2 milligrams, 1 miligram remains after the 5 hours, five hours later the amount is .5 milligrams, and so on. How much this effects sleep is probably a function of a lot of factors, including age. Older people are more effected by caffeine as they generally don’t sleep as well Probably body weight and other factors also make a difference. Personally at 69 I have more difficulty sleeping, and stay away from caffeine after noon whenever possible, dammit! When I was nineteen we used to get together for coffee after our Saturday night dates….no more! If you’re sleeping OK its’ probably not an issue…otherwise cutting back makes sense!

      1. magnesium is depleted from

        magnesium is depleted from the body due to caffiene. magnesium helps regulate sleep. this is just stuff that i learned by googling, you can google it yourself on The Google

  4. i have always drank coffee

    i have always drank coffee and never smoked, recently though, i have switched to all decaf coffee in order to prepare for pregnacy, (during which no caffeine is allowed) it took four days of excrutiating migrain to quit caffeine for me, despite the fact that i was only at one cup a day, but now that i am free i am quite happy, just wanted to see if decaf was safe for me. But because of the migrain, i must disagree with people who say that caffeine is not addictive, and that there is no withdrawl, maybe not for some people but most i know suffer a headache at least.

    1. Caffeine is a very addictive

      Caffeine is a very addictive drug. We’re in the same boat right now, I’m trying to get pregnant as well, and I quit drinking coffee 6 days ago. I had horrible headaches for the first 3 days and still don’t feel like myself after almost a week. It’s all for a good cause, though! Doctors say it is perfectly safe to have 60-65 milligrams of caffeine per day when you are pregnant, but I’m still going to avoid drinking caffeine. I will have a cup of decaf in the morning, though! And at 2-3 milligrams of caffeine per cup, I think it’s absolutely justifyable! Good luck getting pregnant!

      1. you can avoid the headaches

        you can avoid the headaches fairly easily. drink a lot of water. decrease your intake slowly over a period of 10 days or so. take magnesium supplements. best of luck!

        1. Thanks !!!

          Im so glad I found this site via google…
          I quit coffee cold turkey three days ago after drinking 1 – 3 cups a day for past 20 years.
          The only symptom I have is a headache… and a bad one. I rarely get headaches and never had a headache that didn’t go away after a nights sleep. Three days after quitting, felt like what people describe as the starting of a migraine being somewhat light sensitive and at times it felt like I got “brain freeze” where you eat ice cream too fast. Advil helped a little bit. I had lots of water but that did not help. I’m on day 2 of the headache that is minor but still of concern. I just broke down and had a cup of coffee as I don’t want to go to work another day and not be able to concentrate. Being a somewhat healthy 43 yr old male, and never smoked (having such addiction), I’m absolutely shocked at what the affects of caffeine can do on a body. Webmaster, thanks for the site to share experiences! I now know I’m not alone or crazy. My next step is to have half cups and try to decrease over time

      1. But why even risk that?

        But why even risk that?  Caffiene is a luxory and not a natural part of like.  I don’t understand how or why women justify not taking a break from this simple pleasure to receive a child/give a child optimal health.  It is only 9 months.  Decaff won’t kill you.  A headache will not kill you.  You’ve prob dealing with them during morning sickness already  🙂 If you drink the amount “that is *safe* to drink”, that translates to: “More than this amount is UNSAFE”. Think about it for a few.  Why not give them the best enviroment and supplies to grow their little bodys and minds?

    2. I quit in a month

      I had quit caffeine before cold-turkey and got similar migraines for about 3 or 4 days.  Fast forward 5 years, i was hooked on it again.  I quit again, but this time my wife forced me to take it slow and quit over a period of a month.  I cut the caffeine back, 1 tablespoon at a time, til I was on decaf only.  Tomorrow, no decaf either.  It was well worth the wait.  No headaches, no fatique, no grouchiness. 🙂

  5. I quite drinking my two cups

    I quite drinking my two cups of regular coffee every morning and drink two cups of decaf instead, because I had high blood pressure. I also stopped eating salt, that was the hard part. But now my blood pressure is low and I am happy that I don’t have to take medicine for it, yet. Decaf smells and tastes almost as good.

  6. Although I love coffee and

    Although I love coffee and caffeinated drinks, I recently discoverd that by drinking coffee in the morning, it was reason for excessive my tiredness and lethargy later in the day. If you get bouts of tiredness through the day, consider quitting coffee for 30 days – You’ll be pleasantly surprised!

    1. This is absolutely true. I

      This is absolutely true. I had to give up my beloved coffee during a gastrointestinal diagnostic period, and i was better able to get out of bed in the morning and go to bed at night when i was off the caffeine roller coaster. Also, since I’ve been pregnant i find my sleep patterns are interrupted only about as much or less than when i drink a lot of coffee…pretty good for the exhaustion period of first trimester! (Though I will say, the tiredness with pregnancy is true… My sleep needs increased and I listened to my body!)

    2. An apple is actually more

      An apple is actually more effective at wakeing you up in the morning than that cup of coffee and its healthier for you. If you’re having trouble waking up, try snaking on an apple!

      1. Sex is actually more, than an apple

        Sex with or without a partner will wake you up more than an apple, but neither is better than coffee.

        1. Sex is actually more, than an apple

          Actually, that is wrong. Once a human has an orgasm, the body has expended a tremendous amount of energy just to do that. I always feel weak and tired. As for the COFFEE, yes, Coffee dehydrates the body and once the caffiene leaves the body, there is a weary effect. Remember, Caffiene is like Amphetamines which are stimulants.

    3. PM lethargy

      I too tried this with similar results. However I have a theory that it’s not actually having the coffee in the morning that makes you tired in the afternoon – since coffee dehydrates the body, if we fail to replenish the lost water we will feel tired. You can test this … The next time you feel tired in the PM try drinking a glass of two of water – you will be surprised just how awake you begin to feel shortly after.

    1. Slight Headache Issue

      I also suffer from caffeine withdraw headaches. It’s strange because I don’t drink regular coffee because of my GERD issues. But today, for the first time ever, I thought I would try decaf just because I love the smell of coffee and before my GERD was diagnosed, I did enjoy a good cup of Joe. Decaf tastes burnt to me, and now I don’t feel well just the same as with normal coffee. I won’t be drinking coffee or high caffinated tea again.

      1. I also suffer from GERD and

        I also suffer from GERD and recently needed to cut regular coffee out of my diet.  I am going to try a couple of the decaf brands that another user recommended and see what I think though.

         

        “I have never liked decaf, but since getting my Keurig, I’ve found several very good brands nd flavors.  Timothy’s Columbian Decaf is terrific as well as Green Mountain Decaf Hazelnut (and I hate haselnut.)  Good Luck.”

    2. It’s possible.  Depends on

      It’s possible.  Depends on your level of sensitivity to caffeine. 

      To be classified as decaf; technically it needs to have 97% or more of the caffeine content by weight removed.  So the caffeine levels are pretty tiny but it’s not completely removed.

  7. Caffeine and Anxiety

    I’d learned recently that people that have a real problem with anxiety can have that challenge amplified by even the small amounts of caffiene found in Decacf coffees and teas. When I cut out caffeine altogether, I no longer needed medication for my anxiety. The trick is gradual change so you don’t have to deal with the withdrawl headaches, etc.

    Be well!

    1. Caffein and anxiety

      Maybe they are on diabetic medication? Diabetics easily get urinary tract infections and caffein is an aggravating factor.

      The UTI can cause the anxiety and not the caffein.

      1. While caffeine is probably

        While caffeine is probably not the cause; it has been known and proven to aggravate cases of anxiety (sometimes to severe levels).

  8. Good brand of instant decaff coffee

    Hi, does anyone know of a good brand of instant decaff coffee (available in the U.K.), please? I’m trying to wean myself off regular and bought a jar of Kenco decaff but it smellls and tastes like chemicals! Good luck to anyone trying to get off it. Jackie. 

    1. The words “good” and “instant

      The words “good” and “instant coffee” should never appear together.. It you want fast, buy a Keurig or something. You’ll thank me later.

      1. instant vs keurig

        I beg to differ.  I think starbucks has great instant coffee.  The few times I’ve tried coffee via a Keurig I never liked it.  They taste weak to me.  I much rather have instant coffee.  Starbucks has a great light roast called Blonde and a mild roast called Breakfast Blend.  Give them a try. 

        1. Please dont call starbucks

          Please dont call starbucks “coffee”… It is the same as saying mcdonalds makes a terrific ” hamburger”… It is watered down filter goop that has nothing to do with coffee.

          If you want a quality decaf – buy a simple nespresso machine and get some decaf lungo capsules… You can thank me later…

          1. Are you serious?  My wife

            Are you serious?  My wife worked at Starbucks for over a year when we were dating.  Watered down?  Not if the barista isn’t retarded.  Don’t be ridiculous.  Starbucks has GREAT coffee, and I drink mine only black.  Mmmmm Breakfast Blend or Italian Dark roast.

          2. Its true

            No, Its true. You may feel manly taking your coffee black, but Starbucks does make truely awful coffee. Fact. ig

        2. starbucks has good instant

          starbucks has good instant coffe..but thats the only “instantl ive evr liked. the best kuerig coffees are the “dark roast”. they have a lot of body and flavor but i agree, if u buy mild or medium no matter what brand for your kuerig its too watered down.

    2. decaf coffee

      I have never liked decaf, but since getting my Keurig, I’ve found several very good brands and flavors.  Timothy’s Columbian Decaf is terrific as well as Green Mountain Decaf Hazelnut (and I hate haselnut.)  Good Luck.

      1. Best Decaf Coffee

        The most flavorful decaf coffee I’ve found is Peet’s Decaf French Roast (comes ground in 12 ounce packages) available at Ralphs Market 🙂

  9. Emotional withdrawal

    Hi, I’ve had a cyclical (on-and-off) relationship with caffeine for most of my life. I’m currently 3 months sober from alcohol in attempt to relieve depression and I had to deal with resentments that I used to drink away. Now that I’m beginning to let go of caffeine I’m vulnerable to those resentments again as if they were fresh. Has anyone else had that happen to them during their withdrawal?

    1. caffeine withdrawl

      Yes! My doctor told me to quit caffeine. I had been having several cups of coffee/tea/soda daily for over twenty years. I would get the bad headache if I missed a dose, etc. Everything I was told and read about caffeine withdrawl did NOT prepare me for what I went through. Although the headaches – and nausea by the way – went away within about a week (I “weaned” myself prior to that for about a week to lesson the impact) I had serious fatigue and emotional distress / depression for about a month! I had never had a problem with depression or anxiety in my life, and during this time there was nothing in particular or different in my life – apart from caffeine withdrawl – that should have been making me sad or anxious.  I just felt DEPRESSED and like there was nothing I could do about it. I was an emotional wreck, crying at work over nothing, looking like the walking dead because I was so tired. Thankfully, this went away after being off caffeine fully for about a month. But it was a serious emotional whammy going off the stuff for me.  And like I said, my doctor didn’t prepare me (she said I might get headaches for two or three days – ha!) 

      But don’t let this discourage you from going off caffeine. I feel MUCH better now that I am 100% caffeine free. An added side effect I wasn’t expecting is that I sleep much better now and I wake up feeling more refreshed. Just be prepared for potential emotional side effects and know that they will go away.

    2. Hi,
      Great to hear that you

      Hi,
      Great to hear that you are taking care of yourself. I have quit a lot of stuff in my life including alcohol. I needed support with staying sober and I Still do. I quit coffee a couple of times and had severe headaches. Went back on the coffee , still sober though

    3.    I don’t get the resentment

         I don’t get the resentment feeling and coffee connection. I have read that decaff mean like 98% decaf. Also, yes, coffee can make a big difference in how you feel and behave/think. It is a stimulant. My psych out me on adderal for ADD and it contains a stimulant. That right there should have me cutting to only decaf, which I don’t like the taste of really…..but anyway, I am struggling to go 100% decaf. I enjoy coffee and do go about 80% decaf but still, the amphetamine salts in Add’l is good reason to go only decaf. I am a low energy and VERY depressed perso these days so sometimes I want the caffeine despite what I’ve typed above.

       

  10. My Doctor

    I went for a physical this past week and informed my doctor of my withdrawal experience from caffeine.  He looked at me like I was from outer space.  Based on my personal experience (and many on this board’s too), there is a pretty obvious disconnect between the main stream medical industry and those that suffer severe caffeine withdrawals.  Perhaps we are a minority, and most people recover within a week or so.  But our experiences are still real nonetheless.  I am so thankful that I found this board.  I am not sure what I would have done without it.  I think I took a similar path to withdrawal as ahuman did.  I am caffeine free for the past 75 days or so, and still have minor PAWS (mainly slight anxiety). 

    It gets better.  There is a light at the end of the tunnel for people like us!  The rewards > than the pain.  Although I still have my down days, the good days are outnumbering them.  Sometimes I feel like I am 20 years younger.  I can’t wait to see how I feel in 6 months from now.  Congrats to all that have kick this habit.  And good luck to those that are trying to. 

    Take care, Marc

    1. Decaf

      I thoroughly enjoyed my one cup of coffee/latte, but since I now have Menieres, professionals think caffeine may trigger a vertigo attack. I want desperately to try a cup if decaf, but I’m not sure how much caffeine is really in it. Marc, why don’t you drink decaf?

      1. Decaf

        Hi Julie,

        Actually, I do drink decaf coffee every morning.  About 4 cups or so.  I am told by many that, while there is some caffeine in decaf coffee, there is very little of it.  Most people don’t like decaf because of the taste.  I personally do not mind it.  A little fake sugar and some creamer goes a long way.  I personally feel that decaf is harmless, but that’s just me and I am in no way, shape or form, a medical expert.

        It’s been over 100 days off of regular coffee, and I am really pleased with the results.  I don’t miss caffeine at all.  The decaf coffee has some drawbacks, but I consider it an excellent and reasonable substitute. It may not be for everyone, but it has helped me.

        I hope this helps.  Good luck.

         

         

        1. decaf coffee

          Decaffeinated coffee still has some level, albeit small, of caffeine remaining. 1 cup of decaf or regular per day is okay, but when my patients come in saying they drink 3,4,5,6 cups a day, I counsel them to back down to 1. Thinking that 4 cups a day is okay just because it is decaf is probably a dangerous philosophy to embark on, not so much different than the obese patient drinking 4 bottles of diet soda a day. I am a Colon and Rectal surgeon and see a lot of patients with bowel complaints linked to coffee, caffeine, etc. and based on the physiologic effects of these foods I and most physicians would recommend moderation of whatever you are eating. Not lecturing anyone, just passing along some info.

          1. Thanks Doc

            Gentle reminders of the consequences are appreciated. I was a bit skeptical on your topic until you flashed your credentials. Moderation on most things is wise. My mom (an RN, now passed) always consuled diversity in food/drink. Most people get into patterns. I drink a lot of coffee. Are the problems caffeine or coffee? I switch to decaf in the evening. I need the hot liquid (allergies) to clear my throat of flem.

          2. Think you’re missing the

            Think you’re missing the point. at 97.5% caffeine removed, it would take 40 cups of decaf coffee to equal one cup of regular coffee for caffeine content. Is 4,5,6 cups of cups excessive? probably, but don’t make it look as though it has anything to do with the caffeine content, because it doesn’t. Your post doesn’t make it clear why 4-6 cups is a ‘dangerous philosophy to embark on’ but alludes to caffeine content being the reason. Given my previous explanation, I’m not sure how that’s possible.

            A concerned coffee addict

        2. Decaf

          The secret to drinking decaf, if brewed, is that it has to be fresh. The chances of getting a really decent cup in a restaurant are not very good. Over 30 minutes old and you can dump the whole pot.

      2. Minieres

        I to am kicking the caffiene habit.

        Can you tell me about your Menieres….
        I have been suffering from dizziness since last January, and the first doctor told me I had something called Labyrinthitis, which after seeing an ENT, is what it turned out not to be.   All they gave me was Meclezine, which did nothing.  They finally said I had something else where the fluid is in my inner ear and is pressing against the nerve.  Can’t remember the name.

        Please tell me more about this Menieres.

         

        1. dana white

          I’m only replying because I follow a podcast that has had dana white, ufc president, on and he suffered from meniers as well. He had a blood centerfuge procedure done that cured it 100%  this was after a surgery and other semi invasive procedures.  Sounded like a terrible condition,  so I had to pass on the cure. Good luck! 

        2. caffeine consequences

          Hi! I battled caffeine addiction all my life. I come from a family of heavy caffeine drinkers. I got up to drinking 10 cups a day, and wound up with serious cystic fibrous disease, and had breast tissue removed, was in a major 5 car accident after ingesting two much caffeine, have suffered heart arithmya for years and an inability to absorb iron. It caused major leg cramps due to calcium depletion, and serious b-vitamin loss. I just read an article that said that caffeine is a white, bitter chrystallline alkaloid derived from coffee, and its classified together with Cocaine and Amphetamines as a central nervous system stimulant. The final blow was Rhuematoid Arthirits, and an article that said, its one of the listed “poisons” that causes the bodies immune system to turn in on itself.  Fair warned young ones, there is hell to pay, for coffee addiction, and denial. I would love to have known all these stats at 18. The article said 10-15 Billions pounds of coffee is consumed around the world every year. Is it any wonder we are at war all the time. The whole world is wired on the stuff.

           

        3. vertigo caused by stress

          Hi guys, I had suffered for vertigo for about 2 weeks – not labyrinthitis – not Menieres as I could hear low tones (if you suffer from Menieres yuo are very likely to loose perception of lower tones rather than the higher ones). In any case doctors could not understand what it was, although I told them my ears felt wet and I felt an accumulation of fluid behind the ear. I finally went to a acupunturist who had diagnosed a kidne qi defiency due to stress, already after the 1st session I was feeling so much better and after a couple of weeks I was back to normal – she told me to stop drinking coffee as it over stimulates the adrenal glands; As a matter of fact what was happening was that the kidneys regulate fluids inside the body: hence the accumulation of liquids which pressed against the nerve. First step is definitely to give your adrenal glands and kidneys a break by stop drinking caffeine and lower your intake of sugars. Also good to drink lots of nettle tea and liquorice tea (if you don’t have an hypertension problem)… and of course relax:) good luck!!!

    2. Chicory root is a great

      Chicory root is a great alternative to coffee and is caffeine free. It still has that bitter and roasted taste but is actually good for you and very natural. I love adding some almond milk and stevia for the perfect morning drink. Can do it iced too. Chicory is a great option if you don’t mind adapting your taste buds for the benefit of your health.

    3. pero / the perfect break from coffee 100% caffeine free!

      try pero…it is ‘the perfect break from coffee’ made from barley, malted barley, chicory, rye & nothing else…. it is great!    i was a starbucks junkie and i have been able to enjoy this just the same!   use it as you would instant coffee…hot or iced beverages…etc.   i drink it black as i can drink coffee any way…used to drink it with half & half and ‘whey low’ sweetener from vivalac (whey low is  ‘sugar made healthy’…which is another awesome product that a lot of people don’t know about ). you can order it online 😉   the pero should be at your local health food store, whole foods, etc.   not sure if it is available at the local grocery…just started using it myself.

  11. No cafeine and no more hypertension 230/120

    In my case after a year on “decaf” no more dangerously high blood pressure, no more hypertension. My doctors tried every pill they could to keep my blood pressure down. Nothing was working. I was a heavy coffee drinker for 30 yrs, but since I have learned about caffeine, a “fresh cup of decaf” or a hot chocolate (caffeine free . . like Nestle’s Quick) has kept me out of the hospital ER rooms and much healthier. Starbucks decaf coffee has more caffeine (and the hot chocolate also). They actually googled it for me. . .like 20% caffeine (must not be USA grown). Also I read any labeled decaf coffee made in the USA will be 97% caffeine free (at the least, some have only 0.14 caffeine ) in order to meet the FDA regulations. Next I may try the pero I am reading about.

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