How to reduce the caffeine on your body?

Is there a way to reduce the quantity of caffeine on your body, like an antidote?
For example, if you take an expresso or a certain amount of coffee to keep you awake (for finish a work or study), but then you realize that you don't need to be awake all night, is there something that cuts the effect of caffeine (food or drink for example) you have on your body?

I've searched in your FAQ, but didn't find anything.

Thanks in advance

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Neurocalm and magnesium

I am super super sensitive to caffeine - like even decaf keeps me up all night with severe anxiety attacks. I accidentally drank an energy drink (wasn't told it was caffeinated). started having panic attacks so took two neurocalm tablets and two magnesium tablets and it helped so so much!!

great relief 4 cms of ginger root, 3 cloves of garlic & cayenne

Works fantastic 4 cms of grated ginger root, 3 cloves of garlic pressed and pured & 1 tablespoonful of cayenne pepper in a glass of warm water works better fresh and raw but if its too much to handle a tea of all of this can help.

Hope this helps to all because it helped me heaps.

wonderful works well

thanks for sharing it really does work!!

all it did for me was give me

all it did for me was give me bad breath.

Roasted Garlic is easier

I love coffee but get severe migraines and nausea with it.
Like an idiot after a year I got greedy and had two cups of coffee after dinner.
Now I felt all uneasy, nauseas, heady, racing heartbeats all that.. I saw your garlic suggestion and tried it.
Since its difficult for me to take raw garlic because it's too strong to bite into.. I pierced it with a sharp knife and put in on my stove until I made it black.. It gets really soft and easy to eat. The relief is quite quick. Try not to drink water for 10 mins after.. Works better..
I'm going to have another one now it's been 20 mins.. I know I'll feel even better.

Thanks so much guys. Hope the next person feels better too :)

Garlic powder does not equal minced garlic

I just want let you guys know that garlic powder is not the same. It is so disgusting. 1/2 tsp and I feel like I'm going to throw up. I currently have two atomic fireballs in my mouth to get rid of the stench/taste.
Overall, this is awful.
I'm going to vomit.

magnesium seems to work.

Today I bought a new brand of coffee (as in one that i did not try before). I was eager to test it so at 4pm i tried two cups and it tasted very good. I already sampled another coffee at the shop at 11am earlier that day, so 3 cups filter coffee as i normally should only take 1 cup because i am very sensitive to caffeine in coffee. For some weird reason i can drink a liter of coca-cola and i feel great and don't get restless but to much coffee makes me anxious, restless, sometimes on the border of paranoid, not very pleasant at all.

I took some calming herbs. first 800mg hop. almost had no effect, then i took a second one still not desired effect, only very mild and 1600mg hop probably should make even a horse feel sleepy. Then I used 500mg tablet of magnesium with a little st johns worth.

Guess what i fell shitty for 5 hours straight, i take 500mg magnesium and i feel almost normal after 20 minutes.
Seems to work great for me. I take these pills anyway because of sports and is good for muscle recovery and helps you sleep too.

I definitly going to try garlic if it happens again but magnesium works good too. I actually did not read this forum until after i took magnesium, so it was just by accident that i know now that magnesium is the cure.
But garlic is a lot cheaper and i have it in the fridge so if it happens again i go eat garlic-gloves with magnesium for desert.

BTW if you don't have magnesium pills or if it is too expensive maybe by kelp or seaweed, just dried and make yourself a noodle soup with seeweed, it has 8000mg potassium and and a lot magnesium in it (more then daily dose anyway), works better then a banana and taste pretty nice too. You just need a little bit of it (maybe 20 or 30 grams) and should already work better then 3 bananas

Coffee Antidote

Any food or supplement with: Magnesium, melatonin or Vitamin C

Rutacarpine herb works too.

Rutacarpine herb works too.

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Drink some hot water

Taken some hot water, i always get benifit from it. i don't know why? but it work.

Eat Something

This happens to me alot, i drink alot of caffein, then later i feel sick and i forget that I had'nt eaten, when i eat somethign I always feel better. Always. 

Caffeine against garlic

I was so sick 1 hour ago... I was close to call an ambulance... A lot of caffeine and my body was shaken, nauseas, pain. I read the articles about garlic.. I took a large amount of garlic, 1 banana, water and 20 minutes I am much better. 5 hours very sick and just you helped me guys in 15 minutes. Good luck??? But It worked for me...

How did that even just happen?

I felt the same way. I was afraid to fall asleep in fear of not waking up. I ate 3 cloves of garlic and drank a glass of lemon water and felt better almost immediately. I have bad breath now but at least I can calm down. I can't believe that just worked so well. And so fast.... Wow.

Drink water

Another method is to just start drinking plenty of water. Don't bloat yourself, but drink enough to try to get yourself to have to pee. Drink as often as possible to lessen the effects of the caffeine quicker.

Not too much

Drinking too much water can be dangerous since coffee will cause you to pee a lot. You lose a lot of electrolytes along with the caffeine you pee and can dilute your blood.


True, I also drink Vitacoco (coconut water) which helps to replace electrolytes and also helps to counterbalance the acidity of coffee. I've also read that, ideally, you should never have coffee on an empty stomach because it's so acid forming.

Bad experiment with Kola nut

Guys, I’m searching caffeine antidote because, just a few hours ago an Ambulance track have stopped by my house. Why, I call 911, thought I will die from drinking tea. I did some mixture of herbs Kola nut powder, Vanilla nut powder, and grinded Rose hips. I think the worst affect was from Kola nut, which contains a lot of caffeine. It was just proportion of 1/3 tea spoon of each ingredients, but Rose hips was one tea spoon. Everything was added to an average ceramic tea pot with a hot water. I drank maybe a half of cap and in a few minutes my blood pressure increased dramatically, I do not know exactly how much, but my hands started shake and I was afraid I will collapse and no one will know what happened to me. So I grabbed those bags, that I just have received from mountainroseherbs and started dialing 911 (at least if I will collapse they will see what I was taking). When they came in, they measured my pulls and blood pressure, and it really was not so bad, as they sad, about 144. Ambulance guy sad, to drink a lot of water, and that there is no antidote exist, but I’m pretty sure, in Emergency room they have some protocol to treat this kind of condition. So it is about 5 hours later now, I have drank probably of 3 liters of water, and I feel close to normal condition. Just to let you know it is not a good idea to experiment with some herbal sexual enhancement recipe from the internet. I have nothing against mounaineroseherbs, but do not experiment yourself.

kola nut

Kola nut is an intense stimulant. I believe it was one of the ingredients removed from the 19th century cola beverages because it was dangerous for people with heart problems. I believe it used to be the primary ingredient in old-fasioned cola beverages along with coca leaf extract, hence the name Coca-Cola. I would say the coca leaf was probably the less harmful of the two ingredients. One can still legally purchase both coca leaf tea and kola nut from herbalists, but there are many things herbalists sell that require caution, just like you have to use caution with any medicine. Anything that has a biological action on an organism has the potential to be toxic and cause harm. It is a matter of dosage. 
If your blood pressure had been dangerously high, such as 200s over 100s, they would have (or should have) take you to a hospital where they would likely have given something to lower your blood pressure to safe ranges. 
I am glad you are okay and I hope you will start with very small doses if you plan to experiment with bioactive substances, although I have to advise against it. People die of subsance overdoses very frequently, often from heart attack. 

how to eliminate caffeine from your body....

You should try fresh carrot juice - it allegedly helps remove caffeine from body - I have tried it and it really works for me!

Caffeine antidote that works.

You can use a beta-blocker called propranolol to counteract the 'jittery' effects from caffine. Beta blockers have been used for many years to lower blood pressure and have an excellent safety record.
The combination works as caffine increases the amount of catecolamines like adrenaline in your system, while beta blockers block that effect. Since the beta blockers work more in the peripheries, rather than the brain, the awake effects from the caffine remain without the sweats / shakes / upset guts.
You will need a prescription for the medication, but it's pretty cheap since it's long since off patent. Side effects include lowering your blood pressure (only an issue if it was low to start with), and in some men it can cause erectile dysfunction (only until it wears off!).

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5. Keep your feet on the ground. People often become depressed if their expectations are not realized and this is certain to occur when we set goals that are too lofty. Don't think that you cannot be happy just because you don't have a certain job, a lover in your life or certain materialistic things you've always coveted. Set your sights on basic things in life that are attainable to you, and be grateful when you reach those goals.6. If your depression lingers too long or keeps coming back, please get help. It's one thing to be down for a day or so, that happens to everybody, but if you find yourself suffering from deep sadness that interferes with your ability to lead a productive and pleasurable life, you might need professional intervention. Don't let embarrassment or potential shame stop you; understand that you are worthy of happiness and only human, like everyone else.Don't suffer with depression alone and don't let it rule your life. Life may not be perfect, but it's far too short to be spent in the shadows and pain of depression. Try these tips, try something else or try a professional. Somewhere out there is the solution you are in need of.check out blood pressure monitorfor your health.

^ this

I second this statement

Re Kick you depression, one way or anoher

Thanks for this - great insight and very useful and inspiring. Reading it made me feel immediately more positive and wanting to do more to make my life better. All the best. Jackie

How to reduce the caffeine on your body?

I woke up this morning wondering what the halflife of caffeine is in your body, because I am in process of getting my thyroid dose adjusted and need to know how coffee habit effects that.  I know that there is one enzyme in the liver that is resposible for metabolizing caffeine.  That enzyme is also responsible for metabolizing a number of other things and it tends to become depleted when over used.  Eating the "sleepy foods" that one commentor mentioned may help replenish this enzyme.  I do know that grapefruit directly replenishes this certain enzyme and that is why so many drugs have a caution about eating grapefruit along with taking them because it speeds up the body's elimination of those drugs and upsets the dosing requirements. Eating raw garlic may also replenish this liver enzyme, although I have never read anything about that.  I do know that chamomile also directly antagonizes the effects of caffeine due to the fact that it immediately controls coffee jitters in my experience, though by what mechanism I do not know.  I know that many of the "sleepy foods" mentioned by one commentor in this discussion are high in calcium and magnesium which do have a directly stabilizing effect on excited nervous states, but whether they help to replenish the liver enzyme is unknown to me at this time.  This is a question to google perhaps or search on pubmed.
This is a link to a wikipedia article on the subject (  It seems to indicate that the liver enzyme resposible for caffeine metabolism is highly effected by over use, and that eating foods that replenish it may go a long way in reducing the insomnia effects of caffeine. I am very curious as to whether garlic would be in the same category as grapefruit for this purpose.
It is my understanding that Melatonin is our primary sleep hormone that is produced by the brain in direct response to our daylight driven circadian rhythm and would not need to be replaced unless caffeine has been used over a period of 24 hours or more to upset the circadian rhythm, such as a night shift job, or pulling an all nighter for study, or inability to sleep on a long plane flight, or using caffeine in the afternoon.  I would not suspect that Melatonin has a directly antagonistic effect against caffeine since caffeine can be used to overcome the effects of Melatonin, ie. drinking coffee to stay awake all night.
I thank all the other commentors here for their input because you have opened up many avenues of inquirey that I would not have readily thought of on my own.  I hope my comments have helped some you in turn.

Incorrect on grapefruit

White grapefruit juice *inactivates* an enzyme in the liver (CY89 I believe). This enzyme is used for metabolizing many prescription drugs. So if a person drinks a lot of grapefruit juice, he is at risk for an excess amount of certain prescription drugs in his body.

How to reduce the caffeine

Melatonin, will make you sleep even if you had too much caffeine

Try Garlic

I've done this several times and it starts working almost immediately.  I came across this forum  tonight because I was curious as to what else out there would work as well.  Seems like garlic does the trick better than anything else.  To negate the effects of the harsh flavor of eating pure garlic I mix it with a little lemon juice, about half a squeezed lemon and it goes down just fine.  I use about two medium sized cloves.  I don't eat anything with it right away to make sure it does the trick unhindered and I emulsify the garlic by spreading it on the chopping board with a large sharp knife with a good amount of force and chopping it, repeating the process as much as is needed to basically turn it into a paste.  Mix it with the lemon juice and it is drinkable.  Don't like the mixture touching my teeth so I pour it down the back of my mouth and that's all she wrote.  I had a lot of caffeine today enough to where I know it will be hard to sleep but having just consumed the garlic lemon juice mixture I know I should be fine.  Wether it's coffee or tea I love my caffeine but I am one who is very sensitive to it so I try not to drink more than one cup of coffee a day and not after noon time  except for tea.  On days when I know I'm going to need more caffeine than it takes to keep me awake at night it's good to know there is an antidote that works.  I was actually feeling jittery not too long ago and now I am much better.  I had alot of caffeine today and needed it but I should sleep just fine.  Hope this info helps anyone out there who also is sensitive to caffeine.  It should be a pretty safe way to counteract the negative effects caffeine can have at times.

Garlic to counteract Caffeine

I got some caffeine today by mistake. I haven't had a significant amount of caffeine in over 20 years so I am very sensitive. I tried the garlic cure. I think it worked! Thanks so much!

Thank You!

Just mixed some freezedried garlic and water in a shot glass and downed it. didnt take long and feel much better now, thank you.

Worked for me

I downed 2 tsp of garlic infused olive oil. I also ate a banana and took a dose of my calcium magnesium powder. I don't know which did the trick but I am no longer jittery or nauseous. I only drank a small cup of Tazo hot green tea and had an 8 oz glass of cold raspberry tea today. I am very sensitive to caffeine though and just wasn't thinking when I had more than 1 serving of caffeine in a day.

This worked

Thanks, I OD on caffiene too often because I love tea and coffee and this is the only thing that has ever helped. I mashed up three cloves of garlic into a paste and than tossed them into half a cup of lemon juice  and added a little water. I chugged it down and a few minutes later i few amazingly better.

Thank You

I was learning the meaning of 'jumping off the walls,' and not feeling good at all. I came across this suggestion, and happen to have garlic supplement pills. I took one with a piece of bread, and it has helped tremendously. Thank you so much for the suggestion!

Counteract Caffeine

For mild caffeine related sleeplessnes, try a banana or two (potassium), rehydrate with some electrolyte, water, and some good sleep foods such as milk, cheese, rice, and melon.  It will take time for high levels of caffeine to "half life" out of your system.  Each half life is about 5 hours.  If you've pumped yourself with 200mg of caffeine, it will likely take 5-10 hours to half life the dose down to a dietary manageable level including using sleep "friendly" foods.   If you end up sleepless all night then use the experience to learn that dietary energy management is easier without caffeine ingestion beyond breakfast.  

Worked for me!

I took 2 Calcium Magnesium Pills, ate a large banana, drank lots of chamomile tea, & ate 2 heaping teaspoon fulls of garlic (maybe a little more); it was crushed.  Within 10 minutes I felt better.  Had way too much Yerbe Mate' at one time.  This really works!

Caffine effects reduction

Very useful tips.
Need to try them out now.

I hope this gets a reply,

I hope this gets a reply, I've just spent an hour scouring Google and ave found NOTHING to pull out, or counteract accidental or unintended caffeen intake.

Side Effects of Pot

Side effects of pot include but are not limited to: getting arrested for otherwise harmless traffic violations, being way too friendly to strangers, caring more about smoking pot than moving out of your parents house, weight gain, slow or very difficult male orgasm, loss of short term memory, prolonged exposure will produce a loss of cognitive abilities, emphysema (weed smoke has 5 times more tar than filtered cigarettes, the sticky makes your lungs sticky, go figure), loss of money, loss of job, loss of girlfriend, loss of children (in that order).
Side effects of Caffeine include: inability to concentrate, increased heart rate, loss or lack of sleep, decreased appetite, increased blood pressure, increased productivity at work, shortened life span...
So.... go to jail a pennyless, lonely, zombie and die a horrible suffocation death on oxygen..... or die sooner and be a generally more productive member of society while not supporting the international illegal drug trade. 
THC comes from a plant. So does strychnine. 
Pot may or may not be addictive depending on whose smoking it. But I know a lot of my friends didn't eat when they were little because their parents bought weed instead of food. If that's not an addiction I don't know what is. I REALLY enjoy smoking cigarettes... But if it ever came down to a cigarette, or groceries, I'm picking groceries.  
Smoking weed is not a cure for caffeine. None of the things listed are cures for caffeine. But we do have un-caffeinated coffee, soda, and tea now.
Working out always helps me. If you're going through some intense caffeine panics try doing some pushups or running a bit. It seems counter-intuitive but the lactic acid that builds up in your muscles from working out seems to do something to counter-act it. It's always helped me.

you are an ignorant, hypocritical person

First of all, I just wanna start by saying that marijana is a simple plant that close minded people such as yourself choose to get worked up about. If you seriously believe that weed is bad for you, then I want to ask you: how bad is it? Is it worse than those cigarettes you smoke?
Cigarettes contain 7000 chemicals with about 70 of those being cancer causing carcinogens. There are 400,000 deaths a year from tobacco and no recorded deaths from marijuana smoke. Even caffiene kills more people. Sure, it isnt good to smoke anything, but why choose the one that causes cancer and is addictive? As for the tar, a pack of cigarretes has about 20 grams of tobacco in it and by the way you said " I REALLY enjoy smoking cigarettes" you probably smoke about a pack a day. If a stoner were to smoke an 8th oz. (3.5g or about 5 joints) Of weed a day which has 5x the tar, he would still be putting less in his lungs because 5 x 3.5 is 17.5g. As for your bullshit side effects, weed is no different than a drug like alcohol that makes you happy and carefree.
My point is that you are stupid and jump to conclusions too quickly without actually knowing anything you are talking about. You are a hypocrite. Dont try to judge people for what makes them happy when you clearly arent a health fanatic yourself. So what I am getting at is that you should kill yourself. The world would be a better place without stupid people like you who repeat everything they hear without first making sure its right.

Kill Yourself

get help!

You are very wicked, you have anger issues and you are very ignorant.


Well said by an obviously wacked out stoner!

I'm searching the internet,

I'm searching the internet, looking for some truth behind something my friend said. Here I come to this response...unfortunately this was posted a year and a half ago so it's even less relevant now than it was at that time but I feel compelled to respond nonetheless. You sir or ma'am are a complete idiot. Just because your "friend's parents" were neglectful in general does not mean that marijuana is as horrible as you, who obivously knows EVERYTHING, says it is. Wow - you must have really worked google to get those answers. Just like anything else, the POSSIBLE side effects aren't always the case, for instance see these side effects for Ibuprofen, a.k.a. Advil, listed below. Moral of the story - you do not need Marijuana to make you a dip shit.

  • chest pain, weakness, shortness of breath, slurred speech, problems with vision or  balance;
  • black, bloody, or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds;
  • swelling or rapid weight gain;
  • urinating less than usual or not at all;
  • nausea, upper stomach pain, itching, loss of appetite, dark urine,  clay-colored stools, jaundice  (yellowing of the skin or eyes);
  • fever, sore throat, and headache with a severe blistering, peeling, and red  skin  rash;
  • bruising, severe tingling, numbness, pain, muscle weakness;  or
  • severe headache, neck stiffness, chills, increased sensitivity to light,  and/or seizure (convulsions).

Less serious side effects of ibuprofen may include:

  • upset stomach, mild heartburn, diarrhea,  constipation;
  • bloating,  gas;
  • dizziness, headache, nervousness;
  • skin itching or  rash;
  • blurred  vision;  or
  • ringing in your ears.


True effects of marihuana

The part about marihuana is totally nonsense. I guess you mistook it for heroin or cocaine. The majority of marihuana users have no problem with controlling their smoking. There's nothing like an urge to smoke the day after smoking or hours after the effects have worn off. While smoking marihuana will potentiate some of caffeine side effects like increased heartbeat, it will also make you relaxed and calm, it will also relax your muscles so this will counteract shaking after caffeine. Because of narrowing of blood vessels (due to adrenal gland hormones secretion) one feels cold, marihuana should counteract this as well. Of course it also depends on the amount of cannabinoids in marihuana you smoke. Marihuana never had any bad effects on me, it helped me for insomnia, depressive states, and anxiety (although it's proven it may cause anxiety in some people or even paranoia, it all depends on your personal attitude towards smoking, e.g. if you're afraid, it will make you panic, then don't smoke because you cause negative effects yourself).
Other methods of counteracting caffeine side effects are:1) drinking water will speed up caffeine clearance from your body (just remember not to drink too much!)3) eat fruit and vegetables containing potassium, magnesium, and calcium, e.g. bananas and tomatoes are good source of potassium3) drink lemon balm tea - it has mild calming effect due to inhibition of GABA transaminase caused by terpenes found in the plant4) take deep slow breaths5) anxiolytics for strong anxiety (but these should be used as a last resort really); if you have trouble falling asleep, you may also use some 1st generation antihistamines (those crossing the blood-brain barrier), a good example is diphenhydramine found in Benadryl


dude lol, take this from a guy who's a master of all drugs in his time, pot can cause negative effects without you creating them. Just like they can cause positive effects without you creating them. Don't bother explaining to people that it's all in their mind because they had a bad attitude towards it. While set and setting are definitely a factor for many drugs, many people may have this adverse reaction without having a bad attitude towards pot. It's just simply in their biochemistry. I am definitely one of those people who cannot control whether pot has a good or bad effect on me. In fact some times I think the effect will be bad and it ends up being good, while other times I think I will be absolutely fine and it ends up being a disaster. It's just how these things work. 

Kids starved for parents pot addiction???

LOL, you are full of it.
"Lots" of your friends didn't eat because their parents were addicted to pot??? I have a hard time believing that you would even know that "lots" of your little friends smoked pot, let alone that it was the sole cause of their not being any food in the house.
LOL, define lots. And how do you know they were using pot and nothing else?
Besides you obviously just making stuff up...anyone knows that anyone who is a regular pot smoker, is going to have munchies in the house. lol.


You are a fool and an idiot.
If you have the balls to try to define being alone without any help and accidents happen, houses burn down, and no one there to help but a bowl of weed.
You can go to hell for upsetting me so much- If you want to challenge weed. Be my guest. I have, and I've had concentrate bowls of 10000% THC and still can't feel better.
So when you're insides hurt, you show some God damn respect.


Wow, you sure don't like pot. I used to smoke pot, everyday. I had a job, a girlfriend and really a pretty nice life. I only stopped smoking because I got a new job that randomly tested me. I'm guessing you don't have much experience with pot. I'd even venture to say that you don't really have any friends that grew up malnourished because their parents couldn't choose food over weed. Further more I doubt your a scientist, is it lactic acid or an elivated metabolism. Now I don't want to make rash assumptions but I'm going out on a limb… you should chill out and smoke a joint! Oh and one last thing. Ten years later still got that girl and have a kid.…in that order.

I'm an American lit student. 

I'm an American lit student.  I can tell you for a fact that reading Ralph Waldo Emerson should do the trick.

Haha, maybe I'll try that :D

Haha, maybe I'll try that :D